Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: If you want more time, money, freedom and have a business that's not reliant on you, then you're in the right place. Each week, Mark Creedon, along with some of the very best business minds in the world will take you through simple, practical steps you can take to create the business you always wanted. From his own practical experience, Mark will show you how to work less, make more and get the business you always wanted. The one that you deserve.
Now here's your host, one of Australia's most sought after business coaches, Mark Creedney.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Welcome to the latest edition of the Mastermind for Business podcast. I'm Mark Creedney, your host. And joining me is, as always, Nick.
Good morning, mate.
[00:01:03] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: Crowd's gone wild. People are happy to see that you're here, mate.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: I'm used to it.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure you are. Hey Nick, over the weekend, because we were recording this on a Monday morning and over the weekend I was scrolling through social media and I came across a bunch of gurus, coaches, consultants. I like to think them as gurus and they were talking about how you can ten x 20 x 100 x your business.
And it sort of got me thinking frankly how much bullshit that is and how it's not really focusing on what the reality is for most people. And the really interesting thing is that in each of those cases there was a link. Ten x or add 10 million or whatever it might be, and a link.
[00:01:48] Speaker C: To buy something, obviously their program or whatever it is.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%.
So if you're listening to this episode and you go, do you know what?
I like the idea of ten xing your business. And by the way, it's doable. But we'll come to that if you like the idea of ten xing your business. That's exactly what we're going to talk about in today's episode.
What really got me, I think Nick, was when I was reading these various posts, is that in every case those ads, and let's be really clear, their ads, they all featured somebody climbing into their private jet or sitting in the back of their Rolls Royce showcasing the.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: Lifestyle that you're trying to.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: Right, exactly.
And again, let's be clear. We know people in that, I mean, people like Dan Martel, amazing, successful, has his own private jet, people like Michael Yardening's got a couple of bentleys in his garage. So it's absolutely achievable. I'm not for a moment saying that it's not achievable, but what I am saying is that there's this image that goes out, that catches people and drags people in it. And it doesn't really focus on what is the reality for most of us.
[00:03:06] Speaker C: No. And I think it's setting probably unrealistic expectations for the fact that to be able to achieve that, it's not going to be the same in this industry or with this competition or it requires this amount of individual effort here and this amount of individual effort there. So it's different across the board. And I think that one size fits all sort of solution is never really the answer, is it?
[00:03:30] Speaker B: No, it's not. And it's interesting you say that, because in each of these cases there was buy my sheet, buy my program, come to my day, whatever it might be. Again, full disclosure, we do the same thing, we market the same way.
[00:03:41] Speaker C: And look, I'm sure there will be people that find some great value in it, but absolutely, is it going to take them to the point where they're going to ten x their business?
[00:03:49] Speaker B: It probably isn't. But the other thing that worries me, and this is really what this is about, I'll make this really clear that just before anybody listening goes, Mark, you're a cup half empty guy, you're a naysayer, you're jealous of the grant cardones of the world or whatever it might be. Not true.
I am the ultimate optimist. I am very much cup half full.
That's how I live my life.
But I want to make sure that we're not getting this so wrong and making really big mistakes here, because that's the risk, I think that we run from these kind of guru ads 100%.
[00:04:25] Speaker C: And I think in anything, when it comes to sport or teaching or coaching or anything like that, if someone's going to set you goals or help you achieve goals, a good coach or a good leader will set realistic ones because there's no sense in trying to. Yes, obviously you need to aim for the sky, but if the sky isn't attainable for you, then maybe you need to look at some realistic expectations.
[00:04:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: And do you know what, mate? It's the old smart goals, right? Specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and time bound. And that's been true. But I think there's another thing at play here, and that is that my worry is this, if people listening to this podcast now go, do you know what? I've got this great idea. I'm going to ten x my business. I'm going to add $10 million to it, or whatever it might be, that one of two things happens. Either, well, one of three things. I mean, they achieve it. Fantastic. That'd be great. But more likely is they won't and then they'll get kind of crest fallen or a bit depressed about the fact they haven't achieved it and potentially give up on something that they never should have given up on.
[00:05:33] Speaker C: That's right, yeah. Because their goal seems too far away to achieve.
[00:05:39] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Because the expectations, as you said before, the expectations haven't been realistic. That's right. But the other thing that worries me is that people will go out and they will work so hard that it will come at a much higher cost.
[00:05:52] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: And I look back at my life that certainly in my earlier days, that's what I did.
I believe the only way that you could achieve great success was just to work hard. And when working hard didn't get me where I wanted it to get me, I just worked harder.
[00:06:10] Speaker C: Yeah. And look, I think that's probably been the mindset for quite a long time now, even in the workplace. If you're thinking, I want that promotion, then for a long time it has been work as hard as you possibly can. Do the long hours, come in early, do all of that stuff that's really showing that you want to be there. But sometimes it doesn't result in that. Sometimes someone comes straight into the business and takes that role and go, well, why have I been putting in all these extra hours?
[00:06:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:35] Speaker C: So I think it's important to remember that that hard work, although, is critical and effort is key to achieving goals, but it's the skills and the strategies that you need to, I guess, learn to be able to be consistent.
And that's really the key to this, because even if you were to reach the sky and you reach that goal that they've promised to you, at the end of the day, how long are you going to stay there?
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. And if you don't have the process in place. So if you achieve those goals and you just achieve it by working harder and you're just more and more on the treadmill. The thing about a treadmill is you can speed it up. You actually don't go any further.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: No.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Right. You just go faster.
That's what worries me. That worries me that people will tap into these gurus and they'll pay them a lot of money and all good, that's fine. Sometimes it does work, but they'll just go faster and faster on the treadmill.
[00:07:34] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: And I think it's the same thing to me, is when you see those things that are promising massive weight loss.
Here's my one trick to losing 15 kilos.
As someone who's gone through a bit of a weight loss journey myself, seeing all those quick fixes, that's what you want. That's what people want.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Of course they do.
[00:07:53] Speaker C: When they see something like that, of course they're drawn to it, because if they think, oh, well, if I can ten x my business in this amount of time, well, that's great, that's exactly what I want. But is that realistic? First off, is that attainable? And can you keep at that level for a consistent amount of time? You know what I mean? That's what really is. And it's the same thing. It's this quick fix that we're looking for. And they are almost preying on those type of people that are looking for the end goal.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Yeah, they are, but haven't put in.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: The effort and the work to get there, right?
[00:08:25] Speaker B: So there's that delayed gratification concept.
The thing is, if somebody comes to me and says, can we double the business? Can we three times the business? Sure, we can double your revenue. That's very achievable, and we can do that fairly quickly. But you know what? There's some bloody hard work that has to go into the process. So you're talking before about being first in and first and last out, working long hours and all that sort of stuff. That's a part of it. But you've got to work smart, right? So just having a hustle mentality on its own is not enough.
Hustle might get you there, but it won't keep you there. And we often say to clients, what got you here probably won't get you to the next level. So what got you to where you are now probably won't get you to the next level. And often that's around hustling. And I worry that some of these programs and promises are all about more hustle, more hustle, more hustle. So I think that what you've got to do is you've got to work out this kind of harmony between achieving your business success and outcomes you want and earning more money. Let's be super clear about that, because that's what most people want, right? They want to earn more money, but how to do that and still maintain a lifestyle?
[00:09:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I think everyone wants that, right? Everyone wants the perfect picture. And that's what these ads or these courses, that's what they're really doing, is they're essentially promising that, or waving it in front of them, like dangling the carrot, aren't they? Essentially. But as we know, it does require that effort. But with that effort, like you're saying with the hustling, you do need to hustle, but you also need to learn along the way, don't you?
[00:10:02] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Well, you've got to hustle, you've got to learn, you've got to scale. And so what you want to do is once you reach a certain level that you want to have other people that are hustling, and then they get other people of hustling. And that's really the strategic growth that you're going to get in your business. So let's have a look at a couple of things I think that people can do. And what I want to focus on today is not ten xing, it's not hustling. It's how to get a little bit of the best of both worlds. And I want to share with our listeners two things that I do. And you'll recognize a number of this, Nick, but also, I know when I don't do these, I kind of fall off the wagon and things start to go pear shaped for me. So let's talk about the first thing. The first thing, if I'm going to work out how I'm going to make more money in my business, achieve more in my business, but also not drive myself into the ground.
[00:11:00] Speaker D: Right.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: I mean, that's the last thing I want to do is be back in that position where I'm at breaking point and I'm burnt out, because then I'm no good to anybody.
[00:11:10] Speaker C: No.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: Especially myself.
[00:11:12] Speaker C: Or the growth.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Or the growth.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: The growth is only going to take a step backwards, isn't it?
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So the number one thing we need to do is work out.
If we look at where do we want to be in twelve months time in terms of financial gain from the business, and we set that as a target, we then need to work out what do we need to do to get there. And I break it right down back to a week. So what I like to do is work out what does my week look like? There are things that I do on a daily, weekly, monthly and quarterly basis. We've spoken before about the concept of preloading your calendar, but there's so much value in just being clear about what it is I want to do with my week. So essentially mapping out your ideal week.
So number one thing I do is I get my calendar and before I even load in the things I have to do on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly basis, I think about when do I want to work.
When do I actually want to work, and when do I want to play, when do I want to do other things and map that out and put it in my calendar so I'm not available to take appointments or to chat to people or whatever it might be before 08:00 in the morning, and I'm not available after 05:00 in the afternoon or whatever it might be for you. And maybe you want to work a nine day fortnight. Maybe you want to take every Friday afternoon off. Maybe, like you do, you want to take your daughter to daycare twice a week. So you've got to set those expectations up, because a really big thing about this is nobody will value your time. Right. Unless and until you do.
[00:12:56] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: And I think that's really key, because if you don't value your time, others won't.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: No, they won't.
[00:13:04] Speaker C: And they will take advantage of that. So until you set the standard on how valuable your time is, it will never be valuable either to yourself or anyone else.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's interesting, mate, because one of the things I love, if somebody says, can you help me with this? And I'll help anybody, I can. But one of the greatest insults that you can make is when somebody says, oh, can I just steal 15 minutes of your time?
Well, no, you can't. No, you can't steal any of my time. My time is super valuable. But until, if you keep saying yes to that, then people will keep taking it because they're going to take the view. Well, clearly you don't value your time, so why should I correct? So before we look at structure in terms of the things we do on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, et cetera, the first thing I think is to understand in this thing that we've got as a business and that we want to grow, number one, is to set the target.
[00:14:01] Speaker D: Right?
[00:14:02] Speaker B: So it's to set a revenue target and go, okay, this is what I made last year, this is what I want to make this year, or this is what I made in the last six months. This is what I want to make in the next six months, then, so that you stop this hustle mentality where all you're doing is working 24/7 you've then got to move to, okay, when am I prepared to do that?
When am I prepared to do that is the question you've got to answer.
[00:14:30] Speaker D: Right.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: So you sort of got to go, okay, because there's a thing called Parkinson's law. Parkinson's law says, and I think you'll get this Parkinson's law says you'll take as much time to complete a task as the time that's allocated to it. Right. So when you were at school, you were at college, I was at uni or whatever. If you got an assignment, I know when I went to uni, I went to uni the first time, and if I got an assignment, it was due in three weeks time, at the two and a half week mark, I'd pick it up and start working on it.
[00:15:03] Speaker D: Right.
[00:15:04] Speaker C: Thanks for that.
[00:15:05] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: Passed it on to you. When I went back to uni the second time, I thought, you know what? I'm going to do it really differently.
And when I got an assignment that was due in three weeks time at the two and a half week mark, I'd pick it up and start working on it like nothing changed. So Parkinson's law says that you'll take whatever time. So if we understand where you want to be financially and you've got that mapped out, you can then go, okay, hang on a second. What is the time that I'm going to commit to achieving it? And there could be listeners there now, right now going, yeah, hang on, that's fine, but there's not enough hours in the day. No, it's not that there's not enough hours in the day. It's that you're spending the wrong amount of time on the wrong things in the day, or you don't have the right people around you.
[00:15:50] Speaker D: Right.
[00:15:51] Speaker C: Prioritizing your time wrongly correct.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Or you're doing a bunch of shit that you shouldn't be doing.
[00:15:57] Speaker C: Procrastinating.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Procrastinating. Well, you know what the other thing, too, is, and I just did this recently, I did this energy audit of my time, and I looked at things that were draining me and just realized, wow, when they drain your energy, it's not just the time taken in doing that energy draining task. It's the time then getting back into a gained energy state to be functional once again. Yeah, 100%. So there's enormous amounts of lost time around it. So, number one, set your targets, your financial targets. Number two, work out what are the days and hours in a week you want to work.
[00:16:38] Speaker D: Right?
[00:16:39] Speaker B: And that's essentially your ideal working week. Once you've got that mapped out, then you can load into your calendar, and I would actually rule it all out in your calendar. Whether you're using a paper diary or whether you're using outlook or Google calendar.
[00:16:53] Speaker D: Whatever it might be, I'd block out.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: So you block out the times that you don't want to work and they become sacrosanct.
You just don't do them. And then within the times that you do want to work, you then lock into place the things that you're going to do on a regular basis. Meetings with teams, meetings with leaders, meetings with suppliers, whatever it might be. Once a day, once a week, once a month. You lock those in place and they are now set in stone and they don't change the next step. And I think this is really the really important thing because that's great. We've got this sort of ideal week mapped out and we know when we want to work, but the next thing is to work out. What does an ideal week actually look like for you?
And I think, Nick, that gets back to that. What you were saying earlier about this one size fits all, so I can go to one of these gurus and I can pay $10,000 for a course or a program.
[00:17:51] Speaker C: This is how we did it, right?
[00:17:53] Speaker B: And they'll tell me exactly what they did, but they won't work out what's really going to work for me.
And what's going to work for me might be quite different.
[00:18:05] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:18:06] Speaker C: It's the same thing I was saying to you before in regards to. It's like any of those shortcuts, those quick fixes that they're promising. It worked for them.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:17] Speaker C: This is what worked for me. This is what we did to get here. This is what I did to lose all that weight. But what he's not telling you is that he's an Instagram influencer. He has no full time job. He has no kids. He has all the time in the world. So yeah, he can work out and go to the gym 3 hours a day. So that's not achievable for everybody. And it's the same thing.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: It's.
[00:18:39] Speaker C: We were able to do this and now I've got a private jet. That's because you already had the funding or you already had the time available to. You weren't working that much. You were working in an industry that didn't require that many hours. Whatever it is, it's just not across.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: The board, is it?
[00:18:57] Speaker C: It can't be one size fits all.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: No, it's not. And you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong, if you're sitting listening to this and going, well, hang on, I actually really wanted a private jet. Well, then that's fine. Good luck to you. And that's fantastic, and I hope you get it, but I really hate to think that people get caught into this journey of promises and the only way they're going to get their private jet is by hustling and breaking themselves.
[00:19:28] Speaker C: I think it's one of those things, too, where they say, oh, look, here I am here. And they make it out like it's easy or that it was easy for them, but at the end of the day, it wasn't. It probably took years and years and years. But they're not going to tell you that. No, because that doesn't sell what we know. To reach any sort of success in any industry and in anything in life, it takes time, dedication, effort, all of those things.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: And failure.
[00:19:53] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: And failure.
[00:19:55] Speaker C: That's learning.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:57] Speaker D: Right.
[00:19:57] Speaker C: There is no such thing as losing. It's only learning.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:00] Speaker C: So to be able to do all of those things and go through that, that is different for everyone's dedication, my dedication and my time and my effort is always going to be different to yours. We have different lives, we have different things going on. So as much as that quick fix and that carrot that's being dangled is really attractive, it's the answer that you want. You want to get there. But at the end of the day, it is not that one track. No, it's not that black and white.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: No, it's not. We had somebody contact the office recently, Nick, and they said, oh, can we just spend a couple of hours with Mark?
We don't need a coaching program. We don't need all this ongoing support. We just need to know the secret to scaling our business. If he could just share that one secret with us, and that'll only take. We'll just buy an hour of his.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: Time, some people would say yes.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right.
No, I can't help you with that because there is no secret. There's a whole bunch of secrets. There's a whole bunch of, as you've just said, it's dedication, hard work, commitment, having a know. It's that know. Failure to plan. There's a plan to fail strategy. Having a then. And we're going to talk about this in future episodes, Nick. We're going to talk about the gap between strategy and execution and how important that is. The thing, I think, is that you've got to have this plan. So you've map out your time. We've got all that set out. You've locked in your daily, weekly, monthly things. And then the other thing I do is I sit down and I work out what is an ideal day for me or an ideal week for me. Because if you can map this out in a week, it's pretty easy to extrapolate that out to a month and out from a month out to a year.
So I look at if I was to get to Friday afternoon or Sunday, Sunday at the end of the weekend, and I was to say, has this been a successful week for me? What are the things that I would have done?
[00:21:53] Speaker D: Right? Yeah.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: So if I look at the last week, I sit back and go, has the week been a successful week for me? 80%, yes. But there's some things I didn't get done. I didn't see the grandkids on the weekend. I didn't spend some time doing a bunch of things that I would have liked to have done. So I actually map out, I spend time with friends, I spend time with the directors in the business, I spend time creating content, I spend time presenting. Like here we do some boardroom sessions, some live sessions, the podcast. If I get time doing all of that, it's been a great week.
[00:22:26] Speaker C: But not every week is like that.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: Not every week is like that. But I have to map out what it is that I would like to achieve on a weekly basis. And I find it's really interesting, but I find that when I drop below the 80% mark of that stuff and I find that I'm achieving less than 80% of my ideal outcome is when my performance drops dramatically.
[00:22:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:22:55] Speaker C: There's nothing worse than disappointing yourself.
[00:22:58] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: And I think something, I practice the same sort of stuff and I tick things off my list as I go along. And there's that great sense of achievement when you look at the end of the week and your list is all your to do list is sort of all ticked off. You've done all of the things that were priority, but then some weeks things get in the way, things take more time than you would have thought, and those things don't get ticked off. But all that's doing is setting you up to drive it harder next week.
And as long as you had mapped out your week and you had things that needed to be done on specific days were done, we can still say that that week was a success because not only have you done the things that needed to be done, you may or not have got all the things you wanted to get done, but you didn't miss anything that was critical because you spent the time beforehand making that plan.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. And it's the 80 so pretto principle. Right. It's the 80 20 rule. But I think that what we've got to be really careful of is that we don't end up with a checklist of things we tick off, which is just all about the business. So one of the things that we talk to people in our mastermind clients, in our mastermind program, is that you've got to be looking after yourself.
So you can't just look after the business, because the business is like a separate being. And if all you're doing is putting all of your time, effort and energy into that, and you are not looking after you by spending time with, looking after your own physical and mental well being, by spending time with friends, by spending time with family, by exercising, by having a date night, catching up with the kids or the grandkids or whatever stage of life you're in.
And if it gets back to what we spoke about right at the very beginning, I think the big danger with a lot of these gurus, and no doubt they have massive amounts of success, is that they miss that point.
They miss that point.
I don't talk about work life balance because they miss the harmony. Right. They miss the area where you go, do you know what? It's great if I can ten x my business, but if I've got to ten x my business and not see my grandkids, I'm not interested.
[00:25:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:25:07] Speaker C: And I think that's where people go, oh, well, they're at the point now that they can. So all I have to do is hustle, hustle, hustle. Really hard to get there, and then I can relax. But anyone that's actually reached that point will tell you that that is not the case. There is no stopping. There is only continual growth, and you will only ever keep going harder and hustling more and more. So you're right, finding the balance is key, because then you can carry that balance consistently to still achieve what you want to achieve.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Exactly. And I think that's a really important point that we're making here, is that setting these targets of doubling your business, or three times your business or doubling your net profit is absolutely 100% achievable. But it doesn't have to be at the cost of turning you into some kind of automaton that works 24/7 you got to hang a lamb chop around your neck when you get home so the dog doesn't bite you.
[00:26:02] Speaker D: Right.
[00:26:02] Speaker C: And what's a sense if you're not happy? Yeah, what's a sense of achieving success if you're not happy in life? If you go home and you're miserable and you're stressed about work, and everything feels like all the weight is on your shoulders. What is the sense of hustling so hard, of working so hard? More money. You've got no time or anything to enjoy it anyway. You don't want to enjoy it because you're not happy. So why would you want to go spend money on yourself if you're not happy?
So I think you're 100% right. The balance is key to.
Because success, although success comes in many forms, right. Success does come in a financial form, but reward and success comes in many other ways. And I think one of the biggest ways success comes in is staying consistent in life.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
It's interesting because some of the most successful people that I know that are running fantastic businesses or have run a great business and are now sort of into a semiretirement sort of mode.
They've hustled.
Hustled? Yeah, they've hustled. They've worked really, really hard, but not to the point where they've lost sight of all of the other things in life. The time away with family, the time with friends, the time doing something that replenishes you, that feeds your soul, that gives you a break, that recharges you, all of those sorts of things. They're the things that I think that those that I know that are hugely successful, they understand it. They understand it. And quite wealthy, because otherwise, what happens is you end up being either wealthy and lonely or ultimately just the richest person in the cemetery.
Do you know?
[00:27:51] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:27:52] Speaker C: Can't take it with you, can you?
[00:27:53] Speaker B: No, you can't. And I think that's so the overarching point that I want to make out of this episode is that you don't want to be the richest person in the cemetery. And how you avoid that is by not just hustling, but actually getting some real balance. How you achieve that balance is by being very clear about the following things. Number one, your financial targets. Number two, what your ideal week looks like in terms of the amount of time that you want to work. It's amazing how much you can squeeze into a few hours.
Number three, being clear about locking in your daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly tasks. And then number four, being super clear about what an ideal week looks like for you and striving to achieve that ideal week at the 80% mark.
If you can do that, then I think you're well on your way. And by the way, the people that we've worked with who have done exactly that, they still double their business. Guys, they still achieve the growth.
They just achieve the growth in a way that makes a whole lot more sense to me and also gives them that happiness.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: They don't lose themselves.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:11] Speaker C: Or their family.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. Or their family. Don't lose them.
[00:29:15] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: Great point. Great point. These are the sort of things that we teach our clients in our mastermind program all the time. While you're listening to this, a couple of things. If you like it, please like the podcast, subscribe to it. It makes it much easier for other people to find us. If you know somebody in small business or a professional practice and you're listening to that and you go, yeah, that's them. They've just been hustling and that's all they do.
Send them the link. Let them listen to this podcast. And if you'd like to know more about what we do, then Metropolmastermind.com au, we'd love to talk to you about it. Nick, thank you for been, it's been a good session.
[00:29:53] Speaker D: Thank you guys.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: Until next week, this is Mark Creedon. Please, whatever you do, make sure you spend time with those matter most. We'll chat soon.
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